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I Read Your Ebook, and it Gave Me A Headache! - By Dr Don Yates Sr PhD

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Chapter 7. The $1,000,000 per day PTC/PTR Scam

This Chapter culminates my 9 months of research, testing and being scammed in the PTC/PTR arena of Internet Scams. Years ago, I looked at various paid to read email programs, but I figured my time was worth much more than $ .05 for reading 10 emails or a $ .01 per email, or anything like that. Such low paying sites are still available today, and do actually pay. However, to make any money with these sites, you need a downline contributing to your income.

It is hard for me to get excited about someone that posts a check for $ 5.00 (as proof of payment) and he or she is happy. How much work did they have to put into to get that $ 5.00; did it pay for his internet connection, his electricity, computer, etc. This section is another look at todays’ big money PTC/PTR sites, and the scams they represent...

I cannot emphasis the importance of this chapter, as I find too many new users (newbies), are being taken by the promise of big earnings $1 -20,000 per email that will never be taken to the bank

7.1 Retired and Bored

I get so very busy in my many endeavors; that I often look for a no-brainer to pass some break time. Chatting is great among the various social networks available, but can lead to problems for you, unless you keep it strictly business, not monkey business. I can say that, as I met my wife online (smiles).

After years of various successful businesses, consulting and coaching, etc., I finally retired. I got tired of the local politics and current business gamesmanship. Moreover, I am a foreigner in someone else’s land; I do not need to take consultation fees when locals claim to be able to do the same job and work cheaper. .

I had been using the internet for research, financial data/quotes, email, etc. for years in my various businesses. Therefore, I decided to try the net for some productive, paying programs. I believe I already told you that I did not play golf.

Having been used to working 12-16 hours days, I needed something to keep me my brain active. After some time of learning and losing at various other interest business opportunities as discussed before, I took another look at the PTC/PTR community.

As I said, the low paying sites are still available, but it seems the real way to make any money here is to build a downline, like most online programs. In as much as I had not built a downline for any other program that paid more than these sites. I passed, but then I began finding new PTC/PTR programs that paid, unbelievable, think of it: $20,000 per email?

Wow, how can this be true? It is not possible - I told the wife, maybe this is a new money laundering Scheme. It did not make any sense to us, nor should it to you. However, do read on!

Real or not, I decided to check out these new sites, joining one lead to joining another, etc. Before I knew it I had several sites promising ridiculous amounts of money per day.

7.2 My Biggest PTC/PTR Account –Pcash.Info.

This site will be used to introduce to and help explain some of the similarities and differences between most of the PTR/PTC sites

Home Page pcash.info
Home | Join | Advertise | Affiliate Login | Advertiser Login | Upgrade | Help | Terms | Privacy | Contact

Site Statistics

Members: 7,608

Payouts: 62,093,832,222.00

Mails in queue 2296

Ads in rotation 30

Membership

Free Memberships.

Get paid by clicking!

All Emails Worth $20000

All PTC worth $10000

$20000 signup bonus

$2000 referral bonus

Redemption starts only $500000

We send redemption with 48 hours

No downline required for payout

Payments Will be Made via Liberty Reserve, Moneybookers, E-Gold!

Fast Payments for Honest Members

2 Ref levels of commission under you

Level 1 - 20%

Level 2 - 10%

PCash.info is not a multi-level marketing site! This is a Pay per Action Site and the membership is completely free to join. You are not required to recruit or sell anything in order to get paid.

Advertiser Benefits the most cost effective advertising. Guaranteed Clickthru Ad Options.eMail Advertising or Banner Advertising.

Advertise to 100% opt in membership.

Members are eager to receive your ads. Absolutely no Spam! We will customize your Ad Campaign. Reliable, Friendly Service. Fast respond! Mostly in 24 hours will be processed. Advertising Will Be Made within 24 hours. Choose Your Page

Membership has nearly tripled since I joined this site. Note the claimed payouts of over 62 Trillion, and all this with only 2300 emails and 30 banner ads. Payouts of 62,093,832,222.00 divided by 7,608 members’ give an average payout to each member of $816,000.

Not bad it if were true. But it is not, the payout number increases with each request for payment, but no money changes hands, only the tot board changes. Of course, this is not real, but seeing the numbers get so high, it became a game, a diversion, and sort-of addictive (how high can I go). As you will see, this site and others became a part of my Welcome to My USD 1M or More per Day Strategy.

On paper, I was making money with this site, lots of it at a time when I was getting nothing from my other sites or advertising efforts. I accumulated a downline of 58 members. Clearly, this was a winner, by all measures, except that “No Payments” were received.

Even with my mentality that if you owe me a million, then 1% or $10,000 would be great, since although I would have like to have received something, but didn’t really need the money.

However, I have learned that scammers don’t give up a dime. There is none of this take a little bit now and I will send the balance later stuff.

You have no contact with your downline, only the name and a $2,000 bonus tally. For that matter, the downline could be random generation of name to fill a list to keep you in the game. Since most of these scammers, as I have learned, own several sites, the same downline name probably shows more than one site.

The home page says payment will be made via different payment gateways. However, PayPal is now missing from the home page. A new name “Liberty Reserve” is shown. Liberty Reserve came on strong and became the primary gateway for several other sites and No PayPal. Liberty Reserve is of interest because if you read the Forex Section of this Handbook, you will find the name Liberty Reserve on the list as a Forex Scammer (whether or not they are 1 and the same, I have no idea). This one is a payment gateway and that one is a Forex site – since they both deal with money – in all likelihood they are related.

From the home page, you can click various links to find logins, upgrade, terms, contact for support and others. Let us look at some of this information.

7.3 Upgrades

Diamond membership

When you upgrade your free membership to a Gold Membership, you will receive the following benefits:

Free Referrals (5 x) - Your referral URL will be randomly inserted for surfers visiting the web site withouta referral URL.

10,000 PTC Worth $10,000 weekly

10,000 banner impressions weekly

$20,000 Solo paid email to all weekly

Minimum Payout for Diamond Member is - 500,000$

Diamond member fee $1000 for a lifetime Membership. Only $89.99 NOW!

Platinum membership

When you upgrade your free membership to a Gold Membership, you will receive the following benefits:

Free Referrals (3 x) - Your referral URL will be randomly inserted for surfers visiting the web site withouta referral URL.

10,000 PTC Worth $10,000 monthly

10,000 banner impressions monthly

$20,000 solo paid email to all monthly

Minimum Payout for Platinum Member is - 2,000,000$

Platinum member fee $500 for a lifetime Membership. Only $59.99 NOW!

7.4 Advertising

Are you interested in advertising with our company?

Below are the different types of advertising services we provide.

We offer many options and are confident; you will find one to fit your needs.

How it works:

Click one of our advertisings from below.

If these advertise allow targeting - select your target groups.

When you are done you will have the price that you need to pay, calculated.

After you have paid for your ad package, please fill out the "Order Form"

on the last step to complete the advertisement ordering process.

Complete all the information requested on the form then click submit.

Once your payment has been confirmed, we will process your order immediately.

Advertisements

A Paid-eMail to Members of our Program

All of the people who are receiving the e-mail have all requested it, thus giving you, the advertiser, and a great selection of interested viewers.

20000 USD solo paid email to all 60 sec (pcash) - $2.00

30 x $20000 solo paid email to all 60 sec (pcash) - $55.00

10 x $20000 solo paid email to all 60 sec (pcash) - $20.00

Paid to Click

Banner 468 x 60 Exposures have a unique price per click and will last until the purchased number of clicks has been reached. These are UNIQUE VISITORS as each user may click only ONCE per ad these ads are visible in the members’ paid2click area.

1,000 PTC Worth $10000 40 sec (pcash) - $0.50

10,000 PTC Worth $10000 40 sec (pcash) - $2.00

100,000 PTC Worth $10000 40 sec (pcash) - $5.00

Banner Impressions Advertising

Your banner inserted into our banner rotation on the top of each page of the website. This is a great way to catch people’s interest, just as much publicity, if not more than, advertising in the member e-Mails. The banners will be displayed on every page of the site, randomly mixed in with other banners...

50,000 Banner Impressions (pcash) - $2.00

100,000 banner impressions (pcash) - $4.00

500,000 banner impressions (pcash) - $18.00

One month unlimited banner impressions (pcash) - $35.00* This ad allows targeting. Price determined after choosing targets.

Cost of Advertising

You can buy $ 20, 000 USD solo paid emails to all members, running 60 sec (pcash) - $2.00. If my math is correct $2.00 / 20,000 = .0001 cent. So how can anyone stay in business if each member receives $ 20,000 to read a $.0001 ad?? The fascination continued

During my time with this project, I noted that most of the ads and emails were self-promoting or cross promoting between similar sites, probably from the same owner. So where is the revenue?

7.5 Terms

pcash.info may, at any time, choose to edit, add and/or delete portions of this agreement and impose changes without prior notification of its affiliates

Limitation of Liability:
pcash.info will not be liable for lost profits, lost business opportunities, or any other indirect, special, punitive, incidental or consequential damages arising out of or related to this Agreement or pcash.info program, even if pcash.info has been advised of the possibility of such damages. Furthermore, pcash.info aggregate liability arising under this Agreement will not exceed the amount of the total fees paid or payable to you under this Agreement. The provisions of this Section survive termination or expiration of the Agreement.

Payments

Affiliates may earn by receiving paid-emails and visiting the advertiser websites after they have entered their member ID in the area on the website provided by pcash.info. Affiliates may earn by referring new affiliates to the pcash.info program. Affiliates will earn a percentage of advertising revenues collected by pcash.info.

Affiliates will be paid via PayPal / eGold. pcash.info will pay affiliates when their balance reaches the minimum payout rate set by pcash.info. Once the member has reached payout they may request payment. Payments will be made within 30 days or a reasonable time after.

7.6 Payments/Cash Redemption

Cash redemption for PCash.info starts at $ 500,000 and is easy to reach (as most sites will claim). The amount of minimum earnings required before you can make a claim will decrease with an upgrade. PCash.info claims they will send the redemption within 48 hours. For most sites, this payout period can be shortened with the level of an upgrade. So if you want your money faster, you are motivated to upgrade. Also an upgrade will provide you with some “x” number of free members to help build your downline.

Clearly PCash.info and other sites are offering a “Cash Payment Redemption” link which will pay you with “x” dollars within “x” hours or days, but forget what the Home Page says. Read the fine print from the “Terms” which reveals something different.

Under the terms Payments will be made within 30 days or a reasonable time after. Don’t confuse the “Earnings” with Cash Payments. Pcash.info, unlike some other sites, does tell you that you will earn a percentage of revenue, not full cash value.

But, as you will see when you do your Due Diligence; nobody will get anything if their daily revenue is only $4.00

Most of these sites seem to confuse the word “redemption” with a cash payout. Using some of your cash value to place an ad will usually be redeemed within 24-48 hours.

Once an upgrade and a payment request has been made, let’s say for a 48 hour redemption, many sites then report that your payment will be made within the redemption period once your account is 30, 60 or 90 days old; and not the immediate 48 hours that you thought that you had upgraded for.

If you read the Home page, Terms, Upgrade and the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQS), you will typically find many inconsistencies between them. For example, the front page does not mention PayPal anymore, but when you complete the user profile; the only payment methods are PayPal and E-Gold.

Most of these PTR/PTC sites use only PayPal and E-Gold, but it appears that many are now switching to Liberty Reserve. If you contact them online, you will not get a reply, and if you contact them by email, you will not get a reply.

I particularly love the “Fast Payments for Honest Members” What a lie!

With the amount of money I earned on the site, I should have been getting $500,000 every 2days. See my earnings of over $ 180,500,000, Amazing isn’t it.

My Earnings

You have directly earned:

$ 92,600,000.0000

You have earned from your Downline:

$ 84,786,000.0000

Your account balance after all transactions:

$ 3,022,000.0000

When the minimum amount for a payout has been earned; in this case $500,000, you can click the “Request Payment” link, complete the request and you are greeted by the following message

Your message has been sent. We will contact you soon.

No messages regarding the payment request were ever received, and its seems that as soon as you request a payment, the “Payouts” Increase, even though no money has actually changed hands. So is any of this realistic – Of course not, but watching your earnings increase and increase by $20,000 can be addictive, especially, if you have not seen earnings on other programs.

7.7 Due Diligence – PCash.Info
Google Search
Pcash.info

592,000 pages

Pcash.info Scam
13,500

Pcash.info Fraud
7,480

Pcash.info Ripoff
274,000

Pcash.info Rip-off
1,250.000

Some of these pages are Pcash.info, but others are keying on Scam, Fraud, or Ripoff/Rip-off, but our point is made. Check the headlines for your search.

WebsiteOutlook

Pcash.info Estimated worth $2,898 USD

Title PCash.info

Description Get paid to read emails!

Daily Pageview 1324

Daily Ads Revenue $3.97

Index Data

Traffic Rank
830554

PageRank
0

Backlinks
101

Dmoz Categories
Currently Not Listed in Dmoz



Traffic Data

Time Range

Traffic Rank

Reach Rank

Reach Per Million

Page Views Per Million

Page Views Per User

3 Mos
830554

1194387

0.9

0.15

14

1 Mos
578515

909434

1.3

0.35

24

7 Days
1183872

1798309

0.8

0.09

12

1 Days
606221

1356318

2

0.62

40

Pcash.Info Rank by Country

Country

%User

Rank

INDIA
34.5%

132259

INDONESIA
19.3%

53643

VENEZUELA, BOLIVARIAN REPUBLIC OF
17.6%

11943

OTHER
28.7%

What was interesting to me is that none of these countries are European or North American in the top 70%

With this information, it is easy to see, that pcash.info claims to have paid out 62 trillion when it has an estimated value of less than $3,000. Ad revenue is estimated at less than $4.00 per day. How to pay you $20,000 per ad?

Obviously when armed with the facts, this is a no-brainer – Scam, Pass

This is just one example of over 200 sites evaluated.

As the numbers grew, it became a challenge: Can I Make (earn) a Million Dollars a Day Doing This? I made it a supplemental business endeavor (a non-paying business as you will learn) from 27 October 2008 till 22 Jul 2009. I’ll include the table in the list section for your review to see how I met the challenge.

7.8 Welcome To My *USD 1m or More per Day Strategy

Some columns deleted from the table to fit the portrait style of the book. You may note, that I tracked nearly everything, as you can see from this compressed columns titles.

Joined

Vendor

Balance

Days

Avg/Day

Bonus

PTR

PTC

Upgrade

Pmt

Payout

Upgraded

Note, that I kept track of the date that I joined how, many days since joining, average earnings per day, signup bonuses, PTR earnings, PTC earnings, cost of upgrading, payment to who PayPal, Liberty Reserve, etc. I also tracked the date I upgraded, when payouts were due and other factors which I tracked off table. So it was a business and treated as such.

I was able to achieve the $ 1,000, 000 per day target in about 6 months. It could have been faster, but all programs must be accessed (whether high dollar or lesser dollars) at least once a month, or a week as I did. Like reading email sites, some have a high volume some much lower.

Scam Problems

This sites promise high earnings, the keyword for most of them, but they also claim payouts, when in fact no cash changes hands. Earnings are different from Payment. Why, because the ad revenue could not possible meet the payouts claimed.

Most of the ads are self-promoting or promoting within their groups of sites, so PTC/PTR advertising PTC/PTR – where is the real money from outside advertisers?

Memberships are typically low less than 10,000 as compared to the number of user online looking for business opportunities. Perhaps that means that the majority is smarter than me, and simply avoids the sites.

Almost nothing, you read should be believed. The information is usually inconsistent between the pages: home, FAQ, upgrades, etc.

Upgrades ranges from about $10 - $500 depending on the site.

If you upgrade and expect payouts within a certain period of time as specified in the upgrade page; often the site redemption page will be revised to say your payout will made to you after your account is 30-90 days old. When that period is reaches the “Cashout” tab never comes. Online contact and emails are never replied to unless they just want your money.

I did get a reply form one company that when I advised them that I wanted to upgrade, but that I have found their name on a Scam List; they came back and said they were not a scam and that they pay according to the terms of their site. Often your site; will never be upgraded even though you have already paid for an upgrade; once again, contact and emails will not be answered.

Site offering computers, cameras, etc. are Scams and never send the merchandize.

Sites offer 100% refund or guaranties if the site is not upgraded within a certain period are Scams. Most sites can be upgraded in minutes once the payment is accepted, if you think about it.

Some sites, when a payment request is made; will respond back to you that they have changed their system, and that if you fund an additional fee called a trade fee of .1 to 1 percent they will send your money immediately. That is another Scam.

If you pay for an upgrade, keep your receipts and other details, in order to claim or file a dispute with the payment gateway: PayPal, Alert Pay, etc. I believe this is why many sites can no longer do business with PayPal because of the complaints.

Sites that monitors these types of sites, will advise you that any site that offers you more than $1.00 to read and email is a scam. I would change that and say forget any site that offers you more than $0.50 cents. These same reporting sites also advise that if the sites don’t offer you a Forum to communicate with them is probably a Scam.

I would change to that because even if they have a Forum, they may not allow you to entry a reply or complaint as discussed elsewhere herein. Another group of Scam sites that I had offered Live Messenger, but you couldn’t access it. I guess the owner wanted his sites to look more legitimate.

These same sites also changed the contract them categories to include a category for non-payment; however, no replies have ever been received by me for such requests

7.9 LET US PUT ON OUR BUSINESS HAT

If you just put on your business hat, then:

It should be obvious that businesses cannot payout more than they take in advertising revenue and still be considered a going concern or a business

Advertising businesses cannot afford to give away computers, cameras and other such items, signup bonuses and such if the advertising revenue is not there.

Take your own perspective, how much are you willing pay others to read your advertisements?

Good rule of thumb, sites that might actually pay will pay less than $.50 per click or read.

Summary

This particular 9-month research and game opened my eyes to the wide range of Scams on the Net, a new experience for me. As I researched these scams, one scam led to another until I felt someone had to take the ball.

I was a good candidate because I do not mind admitting and learning from my mistakes and for others to learn. For that Matter – I Enjoyed the Game and had the time to play it

If I had simple done my own Due Diligence, I would not have had a reason to form the Internet Scams Anonymous (ISA) Groups or write this Internet Users Handbook


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