Like this article? PLEASE +1 it! Evan Signature
Evan Carmichael Top Header
Share for a Cause









One man’s solution to a tough selling problem - history repeats itself in surprising places

Guest post by: Drayton Bird

Article Overview: How a chance meeting in India reminded the author of the birth of the advertising agency business - with a moral to be drawn.

Free Download - A Chinese puzzle: the battle between sales and marketing By Drayton Bird
Name: Email:

One man’s solution to a tough selling problem - history repeats itself in surprising places

“What goes around comes around” is something my former wife used to say to me in moments of philosophical reflection or veiled threat.

This brings me to the name of Arun d’Souza, a man I met about 8 years ago when I was doing some speeches and a brief TV appearance in India.

I met Arun when he drove me from Mumbai airport to the Taj Hotel, which can take up to two hours. We passed the time with chit-chat; and I asked him about his career. He had started selling credit cards face to face and then moved on to selling space in newspapers.

“That’s a tough job,” I said. “I was a complete flop at it. How did you do?”

His answer intrigued me. He had succeeded by employing a stratagem which is at least 150 years old – maybe older.

He used to go to prospects and say he would create an advertisement for them himself and run it in the paper free. They would only have to pay if it worked.

“This is really amazing,” I said. Many people don’t know this, but that is how the first advertising agents started in the days of Queen Victoria. They were space salesmen, and they realised they would do much better if their clients’ advertisements worked. So they used to offer to create the advertising for them.

This worked so well that eventually they stopped working for the publications and started working for the clients, collecting the traditional 15% paid by the media as commission.

Arun said he knew little about direct marketing so I asked him on what basis he talked about results to his clients. “Oh”, he said, “I mean how many responses they get”. That amused me enormously. I said “Arun, you actually know an awful lot about direct marketing already. Because that is precisely what it’s about: responses”.

So Arun, struggling to survive in a big cruel city – a damned sight crueller than New York or London, I can assure you – had discovered the harsh realities and succeeded by exploiting them, all on his own.

I wonder how many of us would be able to do that? I know when I sold space so badly early on in my career, I didn’t have the guts or the talent to do what he did. And how many agencies today bet their income on responses? Don’t ask.

Related Articles
  60% of the Sales Cycle is Over – BEFORE a buyer talks to your Salesperson
  ADHD Tools on the World Wide Web
  3 Simple Steps To Effective Online Marketing Videos! ~CASH MAGNET
  Where's the Problem with Increasing Sales?
  Leaders Aren't Leaders Based on Their 'Say So'

Home > Marketing > Drayton Bird > One mans solution to a tough selling problem history repeats itself in surprising places
Article Tags: cambria, compatibility, endif, gb, gte, math, mso, priority, true name, xml, zoom

About the Author: Drayton Bird
RSS for Drayton's articles - Visit Drayton's website

The Chartered Institute of Marketing named Drayton Bird one of the 50 individuals who have shaped todays marketing. The late David Ogilvy said he knows more about direct marketing than anyone in the world. His book about it is pure gold. His speeches are not only informative, but hilariously funny. Sir Martin Sorrell of WPP said the world was full of people lucky enough to be taught by him. His Commonsense Direct and Interactive Marketing now in its fifth edition and out in 14 languages, is a world-wide best-selling work on the subject. He has worked in 43 countries for many of the worlds leading brands, major advertising agency groups, business schools, universities and management consultants including American Express, British Airways, Columbia Business School, Everest Home Improvements, Mercedes, Volkswagen, Microsoft, Nestle, The London Business School, McKinsey, IBM, Visa and many others. He now runs Drayton Bird Associates, who work with many firms on direct marketing and other marketing matters. He still writes copy and deals with clients personally. Drayton is also Chairman of experiential firm, The Brandscape Group, and Founder of EADIM - The European Academy of Direct and Interactive Marketing

Click here to visit Drayton's website
Dashed Line

More from Drayton Bird
WHY IS UPSIDEDOWN MARKETING SO POPULAR AND IS IT KILLING YOUR BUSINESS
HOW BAD MARKETING KILLED A GOOD MAN
Recession survival strategy Force your marketing to make money by measuring
Why do advertisers spend so much money talking to people who have very little to spend Because they like talking to themselves often defined as the first sign of madness
One mans solution to a tough selling problem history repeats itself in surprising places


Related Forum Posts
Re: Is Internet Marketing Over? Re: Is Internet Marketing Over? - (Note from Forum admin: Mal is responding to an earlier post, made by another member, that has been deleted due to spam infractions.) ... The problem with many newbie’s is that it is not that they don’t want to work at it, it is more likely that they become discouraged thru lack of success and being constantly bombarded by Internet sharks who take their money off them like candy from a baby. The solution is mentoring and training, keeping your hand in your pocket and concentrating on all the free things that you can do to build a business then when a bit of money starts to come in you can go for a few of the paid programs. The problem is that the vast majority are just fodder for those that prey on the newbie’s who are desperate for success but have no help to get there. That is where places like this forum and other mentoring sites can save all the grief but many fall by the wayside before they discover the help that is there. regards, Mal.
Keyboard problem solved Keyboard problem solved - I had an old computer sitting in the garage with a USB port connection (there's places around here to recycle old computers but I haven't gotten around to it yet.... thankfullyas it turns out!) I plugged that keyboard into my laptop and it works fine. So I've decided that's a good enough solution!
Re: Gap Between Rich and Poor Widens Re: Gap Between Rich and Poor Widens - This really is a tough problem to solve. Unfortunately, I think it will only get worse as time progresses. You can't make someone want more for themselves, but I do think we need to do more to encourage them. I'm just not sure what that would be. I am thankful that many of the rich people in the United States aren't all greedy because I think they are very good about sharing their fortune with charities here. That's great, in my opinion. If it weren't for that we would have an even greater problem on our hands.
Re: Evan why is  . . . . Re: Evan why is . . . . - It's just about "PROMINENT BUTTONS" and positioning . . .Besides more traffic helps everyone. Just one mans opinion. Have a happy New Year everyonne
Re: Fed rate cuts . . . Re: Fed rate cuts . . . - [quote="BizLoanz4u":1hw6furk]These are truely tough lending times and i don't really think the lower rate helps the avarage person.[/quote:1hw6furk] Well..but is tough lending good or bad? Most of the problem today has been caused by lenders being too soft on their "due diligence," haven't they? I used to think that banks only lent money to people who didnt' need it. Now, thatmay come true for real!


Share this article with your friends. Fund someone's dream.

Leave a comment below or share on the left and you'll help support entrepreneurs in Africa through our partnership with Kiva. Over $50,000 raised and counting - Please keep sharing! Learn more.



Featured Article


Bottom Footer
Share for a Cause












Newsletter

Get advice & tips from famous business
owners, new articles by entrepreneur
experts, my latest website updates, &
special sneak peaks at what's to come!
Name:
Email:
Popular Articles

Severance and Separation Agreements

Soda Vending Machine = Energy Hog

Work at Home Moms and Their Bad Rap?

Suggestions

Email us your ideas on how to make our
website more valuable! Thank you Sharon
from Toronto Salsa Lessons / Classes for
your suggestions to make the newsletter
look like the website and profile younger
entrepreneurs like Jennifer Lopez.