Victor: I wanted to ask you what advice you maybe have for entrepreneurs that are just about a year and a half into their journey, but I feel like everything you just said is perfect, just believing in yourself, having faith, just grinding out, doing the work, and eventually success will come. Is there anything else that you want to add?
Evan: Yeah I wouldn’t, like I would stop comparing yourself, like who cares if you’re a year and a half in. Maybe you’re 10 years in, you know? Like just, if you like what you’re doing, you have a passion for it, you have to find a way to keep going.
Evan: And what I’m looking, so like I’ll look up to people right, lik I’m not the greatest speaker in the world, you know, I love Les Brown. Either of you guys know Les Brown?
Neil: I know who Les Brown is.
Rix: Like young Les Brown, that guy is sick man.
Neil: He’s like the…
People chase perfection
Evan: I want to be young Les Brown. Stuff like Young Les Brown speaking videos, it’s crazy. I’m nowhere close to young Les Brown, but I’m not like, so what like, so what that I’m not close, like it’s an aspiration to me.
“People chase perfection, and they get pissed when they don’t hit their goal. It’s not about the goal, it’s about doing the work to get better.” – Evan Carmichael
Like people chase perfection, and they get pissed when they don’t hit their goal. It’s not about the goal, it’s about doing the work to get better. And I think just continually, like hard work is just, I guess in me. When I talked about my agent.
When I joined the agency, I was the worst one at the agency. Like my agent Steve was like you know what, I don’t know if I want to take you on man. I don’t know if I want you as a client like.
Everybody else who had been with him, they were more polished speakers than I was, and I understand, I look back at my videos like I actually really sucked, I thought I was hot stuff, but I really sucked.
Worked harder than everybody else
And then, he said, but you know okay we’ll take a flier, like you’re our flier for the year, we’ll see what happens. And then, I just worked harder than everybody else.
When they were having a hard time, like he asked me to do my story. One of the first exercises, make your story.
So I would make a video about my story like 15 minute video. He would review it, I’d make it in the morning, he would review it, give me feedback.
Afternoon I’d do it again, another 15 minutes, right he’d review it, he’d give me feedback, and do it again at night like, three, four times a day, if he’s making it. I did that intro story 40 times for him.
And he gave me feedback. I would make videos every day when the other people at the agency complained about not having time during the week to make one video.
People put too much pressure on themselves to be good at the start.
Evan: And so, I, within a couple months, I became the best-practiced example. They’re like you guys should be doing what Evan’s doing.
I was the worst one, I was the worst, I had no talent, no skill, I just listened to their advice, and grinded, and I became the best-practiced.
So it’s like, it’s not for me to say I’m a genius or I’m special. Like it’s the opposite, I’m not special. I’m super ordinary, introverted, don’t have the skills, and I just worked hard.
I’ve done 4,000 videos on my YouTube channel. Some of them are, are unlisted, they’re like practice videos. There’re like 4,000, you better get better if you take 4,000 shots, right?
Like you have to be a new level of garbage to not improve after trying something 4,000 times, right? So, I think people put too much pressure on themselves to be good at the start.
Make everything better
You see, maybe you see a Gary V, or you see somebody like crushing it hard, and you go out and try to do it, and your thing sucks like, you suck at the start. And the hard part is, you have taste, but you don’t have the skill.
Like you know what’s good. You know what a good jump shot looks like, but you can’t do it, and so when you get out there and you know that you suck, you quit.
And so whatever you’re making, you know what will look good. You have certain standards for quality, and then when you can’t go out and make that immediately, you quit.
” I’m not special. I’m super ordinary, introverted, don’t have the skills, and I just worked hard.” – Evan Carmichael
And so, it’s good to have those standards. It’s good to have like the MJ jump shot as the thing to aspire to, but understand that you’re going to suck, you’re going to fall.
You’re not going to get anything the first time, and just make everything better, everything better. Like, maybe you guys look at your show and like, hey we love The Breakfast Club, you know. One of you is going to be Charlamagne and one you know like.
Oh, goodness gracious.
It’s a good show man, like I was there at…
I feel like Charlamagne is my spirit animal, Evan. I’m not going to lie.
Evan: Right so like, okay, it’s a good show to model right. So Breakfast Club awesome, have guests come in, great. But, it takes time to be that good, right.
They put a ton of practice in, and so, it’s like that’s the ideal, and here’s where we are and just, every show needs to be better like, whoever you bring on next, that show has to be better than that Evan Carmichael show.
Let’s see it, and you just keep building your way up, and you get to be at a higher level so, I think it’s hard when people see that they don’t have, they know what looks good and they can’t do it, and they just quit too soon.
Thank you guys so much for watching. Thank you to the guys from VNR Media for the awesome interview. The full link is in the description below if you want to check it out.
I love to know, what did you think? What are your thoughts? Leave them in the comments below. I’m super curious to find out.
Finally, I want to give a quick shout-out to Kamil Kubiak. Thank you so much Kamil for picking up a copy of my book, Your One Word. It really, really, really means a lot to me, and I hope you’re enjoying the read.
So thank you guys again for watching. I believe in you, I hope you continue to believe in yourself, and whatever your one word is, much love, I’ll see you soon.